Prosperity TVRandy, do us all a favor and run for president!! Thank you for having the courage to stand by your convictions and share your strength with others - the qualities you show are sorely lacking in our society.
So in yesterday’s post I said that if you had a congruent philosophy on prosperity, you would have to support pornography, prostitution and legalizing drugs. Here is the rationale behind this…
Pornography, drugs and sex trade are victimless crimes. They are free choices made by individuals and allowing them those choices are congruent with the principles of prosperity. Now of course everyone involved has to be willing to play their part and they must be adults. If someone is kidnapped and placed in the sex trade, that is a violation of their rights and thus anti-prosperity. Likewise if someone is using children or unwilling people for pornography.
But when it is a case of a consenting adult making a free choice, true prosperity is about allowing them to make that choice. Your judgment, personal feelings or religious beliefs are only relevant to you. If you try to subject other people to them you are circumventing the universal laws that govern prosperity.
So you can hate pornography; no problem. You can think taking drugs is stupid. You can find prostitution abhorrent to your sense of decency. But you must allow others that choice, because prosperity is always about allowing others to express their rights, as long as those rights don’t impinge upon yours.
So if you get addicted to heroin and break into my house looking for money, we have a problem. But if you have the means to get drugs and want to shoot up in the privacy of your own home, that should be your right.
There is logic behind all this, because philosophies must be thought out or they won’t serve you. Most of you were able to do that. But as you can see from some of the comments yesterday, others reacted emotionally and quite illogically.
The true mark of a critical thinker is someone who can separate their emotions and feelings and view things logically. Which is the only way to end up with a congruent philosophy on anything.
So how you doing on that?
-RG
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Randy, do us all a favor and run for president!! Thank you for having the courage to stand by your convictions and share your strength with others - the qualities you show are sorely lacking in our society.
I'm happy to report excellent! I make the effort not to say something is wrong, rather our opinions are different. I can walk away happy with a "to each their own" outcome.
Thanks for making the point...if only more people were "getting" it. I do believe if we (collectively) practiced this state of mind, we could accomplish world peace.
Have a great day Randy!
Meaza
Awesomeness Randy!
This is an interesting topic and the content to rethink about. I understand what you're trying to say. Emotions and feelings are often the very things to keep us thinking logically. It's true. The logical way to go when a tenant stops paying her rent is to get her moved out or evict her immediately, since she does not fulfill her legal obligation, and illogical way is to believe she would pay as she says she would (w/positive feelings) and let her stay and then end up finding out she would never pay after six months. I'm working on it and thank you for being there/the guide to help us rethink over certain things. The whole world should look up to you, because you're awesome, and they will. Thanks, Randy. 🙂 a hug:: -saachi
Randy, I love this topic. Thank you.
I donate a portion of my time and skills to Life Rights....the right of all life to live their intentions in freedom and peace. The founder Rev. Temple Hayes carries insects that appear in her home in Florida outside. I am working on being that advanced.
Randy you are right on point with this. The foundation of prosperity, liberty and freedom is free will. I may not agree with your choices but if they are not interfering with my right to live in freedom and peace then do what you want.
In summary, the legalization of drugs, adult services and more is a non- issue for me. Do it.
Hi Randy,
I agree with you that these topics are not pretty, nonetheless as being free we must allow all the right to chose. In Vegas where it is legal it is actually healthier than the back alley stuff. (So I am told LOL).
Is it victimless. If someone spends the families money on prostitutes or traumatizes you breaking into your house, isn't there a victim. Most drug addicts don't have the cash to buy drugs.
Now one more thought. What about abortion? (So long as we are ticking everyone off, let's chat). In a free society is it a woman's right to chose or is she killing the infant inside her who has no rights?
I believe that the way the laws are written now it is a woman's choice.
I also believe that we should teach about adoption, because no one is really for abortion.
Thanks
Jim Story
I thought I had a very prosperous mind because I used to say exactly what you said. Till someone asked me: "And what if it were your daughter that used the drugs and got into prostitution". I still think your way of thinking is right, but this question surely rocked my boat!
Yes! I start to realise it now.My beliefs are only relevant to me.If I don´t use that knowledge, half of my forces are going to be wasted-or even more.
I'm happy to say I'm getting better, and you've had a big part in that.
I'm with you! Randy!! Wooho!!!
Randy into President!
I assume we are still talking about people above the age of consent. And imagine trying getting folks' parenting skills up to par with these challenges!
It's exciting and refreshing to hear someone apply their beliefs to this depth and congruency. I allow the herd to question my own rational too often for the sake of peace. It's time for me to question theirs for my own.
Randy,
You gonna catch a lot of heat on the prostitution thing... LOL
We'll look at some of these questions on the next post.
-RG
But of course that can happen with or without drugs. If your daughter did drugs, would she need to go to jail, or would treatment be better for her?
-RG
All is well and getting better here. I always have an opportunity to promote or share my values and the basis for the system I choose to live by. The concepts of faith, freedom, liberty, responsibility all have multiple meanings and until those terms are used in a congruent way the conversations have little meaning. Bill Clinton said, "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is."
It really 'is' that simple.
Now, I'm not an expert on drugs but I have a feeling/belief that only time we make a truly free choice is when we take drugs for the first time. Every next time one uses drugs, it is not a free choice anymore! And not a free choice eventually will lead to some kind of trouble.
Then again, not an expert on drugs but
This belief serves me well!
Sounds a bit Libertarian to me. *gasp*. Back in the day, we were considered 'Advocates for Self-Government'. And it's exactly how I behave to this day, I am my own government. So far, so good.
~Jhanna
Well I am an expert on drugs! And I can say there is definitely some truth to the idea that (with certain drugs like Meth), the addiction is pulling you and it's not much of a free choice. But that doesn't mean the government should be legislating our private behavior.
YEssssss. you are right as I am right and everyone is right, that is prosperity, you are right to say that everyone has the right to do whatever they want in their homes, but that is not real Randy.the drugaddicts, drunks, sex offenders and many other zombies are walking in our streets, last year a group of drugaddicts broke into my house and clean all the values ( not bad feelings , I am a let go-let god guy) and what about those predators adopting girls everyday?, I think the idea of freedom is beautiful but a lot of people are confusing that and taking avantage of they rights, so I will propouse that we will settle them in an inland so they can do what ever they want and you giving terapy.....
Rene, you wrote: Till someone asked me: “And what if it were your daughter that used the drugs and got into prostitution”.
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Of course, Heaven forbid. That would obviously be a terrible thing. However, please understand that drugs and prostitution are currently illegal...and that doesn't stop people from doing those things. And, actually (and without getting too far into the explanation) the illegality of drugs causes much of this problem in the first place. In other words, it's the cause more than the effect.
It would also be bad if your daughter (again, Heaven-forbid and this will never happen; just for sake of example) was an alcoholic, robbed banks simply for the money, embezzled, cheated on her spouse, and generally acted nasty to people, etc.). So, while the question that the person asked is obviously a question that would make any parent's boat rock, it's has nothing to do with the actual point; that in a free and prosperous society people of legal age have the right to make their own choices (providing they don't infringe upon the rights of others) and accept the consequences of those choices, good or bad.
Randy,
Would you agree that prosperous person would actually be INDIFFERENT whether drugs are legal or not? Prosperous person would not use drugs anyways because they do no good and don't go hand in hand with spiritual laws of prosperity!
And by the way, having been to brothels in Nevada, Amsterdam and Australia, I do think it's kind of judgmental for your friend to even ask that question. It implies that there is something wrong with that career choice. If someone wants to be a porn star or prostitute, I for one certainly don't have a problem with it!
-RG
There still would be a police force and court system to deal with people that break into homes for any reason. There are guys that kill people over sneakers. Are you going to outlaw shoes next?
-RG
Indifferent? No? Because I believe it private property rights and people's right to pursue their own happiness, I can't be indifferent when the government is meddling into their private business. It's a very slippery slope that you don't want to enable bureaucrats with.
-RG
Wow, what a tough subject to weigh in on. One the one hand I do believe that people have the right to do what they want to or for themselves as long as it doen't infringe on the rights of others or endanger others. And yes, that is congruent with living in a free and prosperous society. On the other hand, there are substances that I would think lead people to do things that would NOT benefit others, and actually harm others.
But logically, where does a government stop when it creates laws based on what they think is good for you? I do believe that when we live in a society there are certain controls needed (I hate that term) to protect the overall good and safety of the public, but then again I don't really care if my neighbor is getting high in his own home as long as he doesn't bother me. Sorry Randy, I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon on this one like so many others here. I have to give this one more thought.
RJ
Drugs, ok! But what if your daughter (an adult) was promiscious and had a mindset that works like "Hey, if I am gonna have sex with strangers I might as well get paid for it"? I know it would be her own affair but how would you really feel? No matter what, I think you'lld balk at that!
I agree in theory, but in real life it would be a different story. Mind you, I am talking about things that would not be illegal.
challenging post like always ... I understand the logic behind your idea, but I think the problem is something else. Making drugs legal ends to make it accessible and easy to get, and it will encourage even minors to use it. how can you make it restricted to adults?
secondly, in the way you are going, it should be also totally legal to even have a TV channel and make advertisement for the drugs! shouldn't it? it is people's choice.
But, it of course pollutes the society I am living in, despite I did not choose it myself. don't you think so?
Wow. Interesting perspective (as always).
I have to think about this one...
Which is exactly why I love this blog!
MS
Hi
I am for abortion. Not for me - many people recommended I have an abortion with my first child, and I didn't... But I have helped a friend have an abortion because that's what she wanted.
I am absolutely for abortion for some people. The world has 6 billion people on it. WAY to many. It doesn't need more unwanted children on it.
Drugs and sex aside, what about just being OK when people do stupid stuff? It can be a social goof or an error in a relationship or decisions in family situation. We have to allow others to do what they do even if what they do doesn't make sense to us.
For some reason, probably because I'm too fixed on my own dreams and goals, I could care less what stupid things others are doing. I'm not only OK with it but I'm at peace. I say, "Peace be with them!"
By allowing others to do what they do is practicing true prosperity just the same -- without the hype of talking sex, drugs (and rock n roll).
Claudia
I have OFTEN thought about this for me.
Escorts and prostitutes earn a lot of money - and I love making love to people... For the safety of my kids I haven't... And I still think it'd be an amazing thing to do. Imagine all the husbands that I could reach and teach to love their wives more and better... and heal aspects of them that are unloved, so that more of them are present.
Awesome!
I found a natural middle way that was becoming an orgasm coach for a while. Tho I only do that over the phone - teaching men and women to be better lovers... And my conservative mother said: I thikn its probably the best job for you. She could see me on Oprah doing this as an aspect of service to the world and Love.
Of course if you see sex as dirty and disgusting then you wouldn't want it for your daughter - yet if you could teach her the sacred arts of being a courtesan, and relationshipping with men in a way that brings them to the best within themselves, teaching them to romance their women, worship them, treasure them, and cherish them in deep devotion... then maybe you could see it as a highest calling to evoke Love and cause magical healing and miracles that only love making can create...
xox
RG - feel free to delete this is it's inappropriate/too off topic for this! x
Honestly I have always pictured myself as a separate logical thinker and quite frankly, that's probably why some of my relationships have not gone as well as I wanted them to ... I have a tendency to see the balance in all things are the good and the bad ... you are quite right RG .. but it's boiled down to keeping your focus on you and your thoughts and NOT on what others think, even if those others are your spouse, signficant other or someone you consider a friend or mentor ... ultimately I see this world ONLY through my eyes .. not yours ... so it is and will always be about ME
Yes, I know there is a free will. However, some people use drugs, pornography and sex in order to fill the void they feel inside. The problem is you cannot force yourself to be happy doing that kind of things. In my opinion, it is better to reach a state of peace that allow us to feel blessed and happy, because there are no negative side effects of joy and peace.
His holiness Dalajlama said yesterday, on the meeting I attended, that we have to practice non-violent contraception - more monks and nuns! Isn't that a diplomatic answer to the question of abotion or what?
Yes, of course, everyone should be free to choose his own kind of "recreation", but only once he is well educated or at least informed about his choices (and consequences). Our kids are not, even with most caring and thoughtful parents. They are newcomers to the world of drugs, that should be legalized, to the voayeristic world of beauty and sex and I'm lucky because my elder (12 years old) keeps asking me questions like: Is drinking Red-bull ok for me? May my cousin and me go and visit the night club where women strip for others? What do all these pictures of naked people on or TV programme mean?What are they there for?
What do I do if one day he stops asking me and his chances to be objective about the trends lessen? Will the values we tought him prevail over the fierceful marketing? So my opinion would be that everything should be legal after all generations have been well educated about it. That's our only chance folks!
Love, Natasa
Unfortunately just legislation won't do the trick I fear, because people's private behaviour is never really private, meaning I have to deal with my daddy's private behaviour too,
and my husband's
and my kids'
and my boss'...
If they are alcoholic, junkies, sexists... is that not making a huge impact on me too?
Just, brainstorming...
Love, Natasa
Randy, here’s a hypothetical for you. You are having a get together at your home in Florida; you walk in on one of your guests having sex with the 14 or 15 year old daughter of your best friend. How do you react? Does it matter that in the guest’s country this is legal?
Of course it matters, because we all must obey the laws of the countries we are visiting. Or choose not to visit there.
-RG
I am working on it.
I am not exactly tuned into the Free Enterprise model yet.
When I went looking for a philosophy that matched what I was thinking I found Rand. In fact how she described Objectivism fit exactly how I viewed the world.
My problem, at least for me, is that in a Free Enterprise system not everyone will act in a rational way.
Does the theory that the market will decide require that the market has perfect information and will also act rationally?
I am still pondering 🙂
I wonder if your response would have been different if the guest was toking on a joint or laying out a line of coke - both also illegal? In some cases it sounds like personal freedom needs to take a back seet to morality? I'm certainly not advocating sex with teens but I do find it interesting that you seem to support the idea that society needs to set an arbitrary date on protecting a girl from sex but doesn't have the right to protect a person from heroin
BTW: I intentionly used the generic word guest. If I'd said the guest was another 15 year old I'm sure it wouldn't have gotten the same response.
Over half of all pregnancies are unplanned. And half of those are unwanted... and it's not only teens.
I was 27 when I had my girl... and it's been hard... I can fully understand someone not wanting to go through this...
And I've made the most of it, and my girl is a juicy divine angel who's a sweetheart most of the time. But I was a therapist who could turn things around - most people aren't trianed that way!
Congrats on finding Objectivism!
This was the same question I struggled with for years. For what it's worth I realized that every other person and business believes they are acting rationally. This led me to the conclusion that with an irational marketplace believing it is always acting rationally some form of government regulation is needed - unless the entire population adopts Objectivism - which aint going to happen.
Why does someone have to be of a legal age to make these choices? Isn't that just another restriction imposed by politicians that think that they know what's best for you and whether you're capable of making that decision?
Randy
I found your comment rather interesting. If laws are infringing on your personal freedom and choices, do you think it's prosperous or anti-prosperous to break those laws?
Carmen
I guess it comes down to personal accountability; we make decisions all the time. Some people make their own decision to do drugs for example - Are they victims? No way - they at some point made the decision to make the first step. Each one of us had exactly the same opportunity to make that critical decision. Another example financial debt - each one of us made the decision to get into debt you name it credit card, consumer (car debt) or mortgage debt. Again they should be held accountable for their decisions. People are blaming the bankers, etc. I had exactly the same option, I made pretty good money (top 10% income in the US) however I still made the decision to not get into a $500,000 mortgage. Why - Because I am responsible and accountable of my own decision and doings. I am not expecting for the goverment to bail me out. People here in US want the Benefits of the Socialism (Social bail-outs) with the freedom of the Capitalism. Well that is utopia ; that does not exist.
What exactly is the difference between a person who
say no to drugs of sc own choice and someone who don´t do it because someone forbid it?Talking about prosperity now.And if I said no 20 years ago and keep my decision or I took drugs until today instead and say no right now and haven´t done anything of importance in my life anyway?Thanks always thaanks
I don´t think that laws will help.They will only put these people forward without developement.And in the end they have to do something anyway about their lifes.They´re not resqued by laws.But our society maybe.I don´t know really.I think we all belong in the same higher spirit.And if the law prevents someone from hurting himself that should do god.But I dont know.It is the same like vaccinations;they have noticed that if you vaccinate to one disease,another one will appear in the same percentuage.I don´t think we can take away the causes.So conclusion would be:The sooner the better...But I want people sometimes to say no to me.I think it is ok, if it can help me change my life.Laws can sometimes do that to people.I beleive
Randy,
I love your philosphy, it's different & refreshing. How am I doing putting logic before emotion, well in some areas & if I am to belive your last 2 posts, not so well in others. I'm ok with that. I'm human not vulcan & my emotions are what make me so. I don't Believe I'm anti-prosperity because I know the horrors of addiciton & I have yet to meet a casual crackhead, functional methhead or social junkie. Alcohol is legal & in my state you must be 21 to buy it, so why is it that when I walk into a detox, rehab, or jail I find almost 50% of the people are underage? Making addictive substances legal & saying only for adult consumption doesn't work. Now I'm not a prude & I have no religious conviction-I'm not looking down on anyone-I'm simply pointing out a glaring hole in this particular belief & again I don't believe that makes me anti-prosperity, but that's the thing about beliefs they are subject to change or should be.
Thank You for your thoughts as always.
Peace & Prosperity,
Derrick
Good to hear that I am not the only one who has struggled 🙂
Rather I see it this way.
We are all being indoctrinated every moment, receiving electromagnetic impulses this way and that.
Indoctrination, as I see it, is neither good nor bad.
It simply exists.
One may call it life imprinting.
To some of us who have had the "indoctrination" toward the "free choice" ideology, and that ideology is consistent with our lifestyle at present, that is how we view things.
To those of us who have been indoctrinated toward "victemhood" and continue that motivation consistent with a lifestyle, then that is how we view things.
How we view things conditions our (re)actions.
In the sexual arena, for example, sex/human slaves/trafficking shall be part of the indoctrinated experience of victemhood conditioning that has not been conditioned otherwise.
The discussions of the good/bad continue around porn, abortion.etc., when one places these issues in any "moral" dialectic good/bad emotional category.
Randy, do us all a favor and run for president!! Thank you for having the courage to stand by your convictions and share your strength with others - the qualities you show are sorely lacking in our society.
I'm happy to report excellent! I make the effort not to say something is wrong, rather our opinions are different. I can walk away happy with a "to each their own" outcome.
Thanks for making the point...if only more people were "getting" it. I do believe if we (collectively) practiced this state of mind, we could accomplish world peace.
Have a great day Randy!
Meaza
Awesomeness Randy!
This is an interesting topic and the content to rethink about. I understand what you're trying to say. Emotions and feelings are often the very things to keep us thinking logically. It's true. The logical way to go when a tenant stops paying her rent is to get her moved out or evict her immediately, since she does not fulfill her legal obligation, and illogical way is to believe she would pay as she says she would (w/positive feelings) and let her stay and then end up finding out she would never pay after six months. I'm working on it and thank you for being there/the guide to help us rethink over certain things. The whole world should look up to you, because you're awesome, and they will. Thanks, Randy. 🙂 a hug:: -saachi
Randy, I love this topic. Thank you.
I donate a portion of my time and skills to Life Rights....the right of all life to live their intentions in freedom and peace. The founder Rev. Temple Hayes carries insects that appear in her home in Florida outside. I am working on being that advanced.
Randy you are right on point with this. The foundation of prosperity, liberty and freedom is free will. I may not agree with your choices but if they are not interfering with my right to live in freedom and peace then do what you want.
In summary, the legalization of drugs, adult services and more is a non- issue for me. Do it.
Hi Randy,
I agree with you that these topics are not pretty, nonetheless as being free we must allow all the right to chose. In Vegas where it is legal it is actually healthier than the back alley stuff. (So I am told LOL).
Is it victimless. If someone spends the families money on prostitutes or traumatizes you breaking into your house, isn't there a victim. Most drug addicts don't have the cash to buy drugs.
Now one more thought. What about abortion? (So long as we are ticking everyone off, let's chat). In a free society is it a woman's right to chose or is she killing the infant inside her who has no rights?
I believe that the way the laws are written now it is a woman's choice.
I also believe that we should teach about adoption, because no one is really for abortion.
Thanks
Jim Story
I thought I had a very prosperous mind because I used to say exactly what you said. Till someone asked me: "And what if it were your daughter that used the drugs and got into prostitution". I still think your way of thinking is right, but this question surely rocked my boat!
Yes! I start to realise it now.My beliefs are only relevant to me.If I don´t use that knowledge, half of my forces are going to be wasted-or even more.
I'm happy to say I'm getting better, and you've had a big part in that.
I'm with you! Randy!! Wooho!!!
Randy into President!
I assume we are still talking about people above the age of consent. And imagine trying getting folks' parenting skills up to par with these challenges!
It's exciting and refreshing to hear someone apply their beliefs to this depth and congruency. I allow the herd to question my own rational too often for the sake of peace. It's time for me to question theirs for my own.
Randy,
You gonna catch a lot of heat on the prostitution thing... LOL
We'll look at some of these questions on the next post.
-RG
But of course that can happen with or without drugs. If your daughter did drugs, would she need to go to jail, or would treatment be better for her?
-RG
All is well and getting better here. I always have an opportunity to promote or share my values and the basis for the system I choose to live by. The concepts of faith, freedom, liberty, responsibility all have multiple meanings and until those terms are used in a congruent way the conversations have little meaning. Bill Clinton said, "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is."
It really 'is' that simple.
Now, I'm not an expert on drugs but I have a feeling/belief that only time we make a truly free choice is when we take drugs for the first time. Every next time one uses drugs, it is not a free choice anymore! And not a free choice eventually will lead to some kind of trouble.
Then again, not an expert on drugs but
This belief serves me well!
Sounds a bit Libertarian to me. *gasp*. Back in the day, we were considered 'Advocates for Self-Government'. And it's exactly how I behave to this day, I am my own government. So far, so good.
~Jhanna
Well I am an expert on drugs! And I can say there is definitely some truth to the idea that (with certain drugs like Meth), the addiction is pulling you and it's not much of a free choice. But that doesn't mean the government should be legislating our private behavior.
YEssssss. you are right as I am right and everyone is right, that is prosperity, you are right to say that everyone has the right to do whatever they want in their homes, but that is not real Randy.the drugaddicts, drunks, sex offenders and many other zombies are walking in our streets, last year a group of drugaddicts broke into my house and clean all the values ( not bad feelings , I am a let go-let god guy) and what about those predators adopting girls everyday?, I think the idea of freedom is beautiful but a lot of people are confusing that and taking avantage of they rights, so I will propouse that we will settle them in an inland so they can do what ever they want and you giving terapy.....
Rene, you wrote: Till someone asked me: “And what if it were your daughter that used the drugs and got into prostitution”.
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Of course, Heaven forbid. That would obviously be a terrible thing. However, please understand that drugs and prostitution are currently illegal...and that doesn't stop people from doing those things. And, actually (and without getting too far into the explanation) the illegality of drugs causes much of this problem in the first place. In other words, it's the cause more than the effect.
It would also be bad if your daughter (again, Heaven-forbid and this will never happen; just for sake of example) was an alcoholic, robbed banks simply for the money, embezzled, cheated on her spouse, and generally acted nasty to people, etc.). So, while the question that the person asked is obviously a question that would make any parent's boat rock, it's has nothing to do with the actual point; that in a free and prosperous society people of legal age have the right to make their own choices (providing they don't infringe upon the rights of others) and accept the consequences of those choices, good or bad.
Randy,
Would you agree that prosperous person would actually be INDIFFERENT whether drugs are legal or not? Prosperous person would not use drugs anyways because they do no good and don't go hand in hand with spiritual laws of prosperity!
And by the way, having been to brothels in Nevada, Amsterdam and Australia, I do think it's kind of judgmental for your friend to even ask that question. It implies that there is something wrong with that career choice. If someone wants to be a porn star or prostitute, I for one certainly don't have a problem with it!
-RG
There still would be a police force and court system to deal with people that break into homes for any reason. There are guys that kill people over sneakers. Are you going to outlaw shoes next?
-RG
Indifferent? No? Because I believe it private property rights and people's right to pursue their own happiness, I can't be indifferent when the government is meddling into their private business. It's a very slippery slope that you don't want to enable bureaucrats with.
-RG
Wow, what a tough subject to weigh in on. One the one hand I do believe that people have the right to do what they want to or for themselves as long as it doen't infringe on the rights of others or endanger others. And yes, that is congruent with living in a free and prosperous society. On the other hand, there are substances that I would think lead people to do things that would NOT benefit others, and actually harm others.
But logically, where does a government stop when it creates laws based on what they think is good for you? I do believe that when we live in a society there are certain controls needed (I hate that term) to protect the overall good and safety of the public, but then again I don't really care if my neighbor is getting high in his own home as long as he doesn't bother me. Sorry Randy, I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon on this one like so many others here. I have to give this one more thought.
RJ
Drugs, ok! But what if your daughter (an adult) was promiscious and had a mindset that works like "Hey, if I am gonna have sex with strangers I might as well get paid for it"? I know it would be her own affair but how would you really feel? No matter what, I think you'lld balk at that!
I agree in theory, but in real life it would be a different story. Mind you, I am talking about things that would not be illegal.
challenging post like always ... I understand the logic behind your idea, but I think the problem is something else. Making drugs legal ends to make it accessible and easy to get, and it will encourage even minors to use it. how can you make it restricted to adults?
secondly, in the way you are going, it should be also totally legal to even have a TV channel and make advertisement for the drugs! shouldn't it? it is people's choice.
But, it of course pollutes the society I am living in, despite I did not choose it myself. don't you think so?
Wow. Interesting perspective (as always).
I have to think about this one...
Which is exactly why I love this blog!
MS
Hi
I am for abortion. Not for me - many people recommended I have an abortion with my first child, and I didn't... But I have helped a friend have an abortion because that's what she wanted.
I am absolutely for abortion for some people. The world has 6 billion people on it. WAY to many. It doesn't need more unwanted children on it.
Drugs and sex aside, what about just being OK when people do stupid stuff? It can be a social goof or an error in a relationship or decisions in family situation. We have to allow others to do what they do even if what they do doesn't make sense to us.
For some reason, probably because I'm too fixed on my own dreams and goals, I could care less what stupid things others are doing. I'm not only OK with it but I'm at peace. I say, "Peace be with them!"
By allowing others to do what they do is practicing true prosperity just the same -- without the hype of talking sex, drugs (and rock n roll).
Claudia
I have OFTEN thought about this for me.
Escorts and prostitutes earn a lot of money - and I love making love to people... For the safety of my kids I haven't... And I still think it'd be an amazing thing to do. Imagine all the husbands that I could reach and teach to love their wives more and better... and heal aspects of them that are unloved, so that more of them are present.
Awesome!
I found a natural middle way that was becoming an orgasm coach for a while. Tho I only do that over the phone - teaching men and women to be better lovers... And my conservative mother said: I thikn its probably the best job for you. She could see me on Oprah doing this as an aspect of service to the world and Love.
Of course if you see sex as dirty and disgusting then you wouldn't want it for your daughter - yet if you could teach her the sacred arts of being a courtesan, and relationshipping with men in a way that brings them to the best within themselves, teaching them to romance their women, worship them, treasure them, and cherish them in deep devotion... then maybe you could see it as a highest calling to evoke Love and cause magical healing and miracles that only love making can create...
xox
RG - feel free to delete this is it's inappropriate/too off topic for this! x
Honestly I have always pictured myself as a separate logical thinker and quite frankly, that's probably why some of my relationships have not gone as well as I wanted them to ... I have a tendency to see the balance in all things are the good and the bad ... you are quite right RG .. but it's boiled down to keeping your focus on you and your thoughts and NOT on what others think, even if those others are your spouse, signficant other or someone you consider a friend or mentor ... ultimately I see this world ONLY through my eyes .. not yours ... so it is and will always be about ME
Yes, I know there is a free will. However, some people use drugs, pornography and sex in order to fill the void they feel inside. The problem is you cannot force yourself to be happy doing that kind of things. In my opinion, it is better to reach a state of peace that allow us to feel blessed and happy, because there are no negative side effects of joy and peace.
His holiness Dalajlama said yesterday, on the meeting I attended, that we have to practice non-violent contraception - more monks and nuns! Isn't that a diplomatic answer to the question of abotion or what?
Yes, of course, everyone should be free to choose his own kind of "recreation", but only once he is well educated or at least informed about his choices (and consequences). Our kids are not, even with most caring and thoughtful parents. They are newcomers to the world of drugs, that should be legalized, to the voayeristic world of beauty and sex and I'm lucky because my elder (12 years old) keeps asking me questions like: Is drinking Red-bull ok for me? May my cousin and me go and visit the night club where women strip for others? What do all these pictures of naked people on or TV programme mean?What are they there for?
What do I do if one day he stops asking me and his chances to be objective about the trends lessen? Will the values we tought him prevail over the fierceful marketing? So my opinion would be that everything should be legal after all generations have been well educated about it. That's our only chance folks!
Love, Natasa
Unfortunately just legislation won't do the trick I fear, because people's private behaviour is never really private, meaning I have to deal with my daddy's private behaviour too,
and my husband's
and my kids'
and my boss'...
If they are alcoholic, junkies, sexists... is that not making a huge impact on me too?
Just, brainstorming...
Love, Natasa
Randy, here’s a hypothetical for you. You are having a get together at your home in Florida; you walk in on one of your guests having sex with the 14 or 15 year old daughter of your best friend. How do you react? Does it matter that in the guest’s country this is legal?
Of course it matters, because we all must obey the laws of the countries we are visiting. Or choose not to visit there.
-RG
I am working on it.
I am not exactly tuned into the Free Enterprise model yet.
When I went looking for a philosophy that matched what I was thinking I found Rand. In fact how she described Objectivism fit exactly how I viewed the world.
My problem, at least for me, is that in a Free Enterprise system not everyone will act in a rational way.
Does the theory that the market will decide require that the market has perfect information and will also act rationally?
I am still pondering 🙂
I wonder if your response would have been different if the guest was toking on a joint or laying out a line of coke - both also illegal? In some cases it sounds like personal freedom needs to take a back seet to morality? I'm certainly not advocating sex with teens but I do find it interesting that you seem to support the idea that society needs to set an arbitrary date on protecting a girl from sex but doesn't have the right to protect a person from heroin
BTW: I intentionly used the generic word guest. If I'd said the guest was another 15 year old I'm sure it wouldn't have gotten the same response.
Over half of all pregnancies are unplanned. And half of those are unwanted... and it's not only teens.
I was 27 when I had my girl... and it's been hard... I can fully understand someone not wanting to go through this...
And I've made the most of it, and my girl is a juicy divine angel who's a sweetheart most of the time. But I was a therapist who could turn things around - most people aren't trianed that way!
Congrats on finding Objectivism!
This was the same question I struggled with for years. For what it's worth I realized that every other person and business believes they are acting rationally. This led me to the conclusion that with an irational marketplace believing it is always acting rationally some form of government regulation is needed - unless the entire population adopts Objectivism - which aint going to happen.
Why does someone have to be of a legal age to make these choices? Isn't that just another restriction imposed by politicians that think that they know what's best for you and whether you're capable of making that decision?
Randy
I found your comment rather interesting. If laws are infringing on your personal freedom and choices, do you think it's prosperous or anti-prosperous to break those laws?
Carmen
I guess it comes down to personal accountability; we make decisions all the time. Some people make their own decision to do drugs for example - Are they victims? No way - they at some point made the decision to make the first step. Each one of us had exactly the same opportunity to make that critical decision. Another example financial debt - each one of us made the decision to get into debt you name it credit card, consumer (car debt) or mortgage debt. Again they should be held accountable for their decisions. People are blaming the bankers, etc. I had exactly the same option, I made pretty good money (top 10% income in the US) however I still made the decision to not get into a $500,000 mortgage. Why - Because I am responsible and accountable of my own decision and doings. I am not expecting for the goverment to bail me out. People here in US want the Benefits of the Socialism (Social bail-outs) with the freedom of the Capitalism. Well that is utopia ; that does not exist.
What exactly is the difference between a person who
say no to drugs of sc own choice and someone who don´t do it because someone forbid it?Talking about prosperity now.And if I said no 20 years ago and keep my decision or I took drugs until today instead and say no right now and haven´t done anything of importance in my life anyway?Thanks always thaanks
I don´t think that laws will help.They will only put these people forward without developement.And in the end they have to do something anyway about their lifes.They´re not resqued by laws.But our society maybe.I don´t know really.I think we all belong in the same higher spirit.And if the law prevents someone from hurting himself that should do god.But I dont know.It is the same like vaccinations;they have noticed that if you vaccinate to one disease,another one will appear in the same percentuage.I don´t think we can take away the causes.So conclusion would be:The sooner the better...But I want people sometimes to say no to me.I think it is ok, if it can help me change my life.Laws can sometimes do that to people.I beleive
Randy,
I love your philosphy, it's different & refreshing. How am I doing putting logic before emotion, well in some areas & if I am to belive your last 2 posts, not so well in others. I'm ok with that. I'm human not vulcan & my emotions are what make me so. I don't Believe I'm anti-prosperity because I know the horrors of addiciton & I have yet to meet a casual crackhead, functional methhead or social junkie. Alcohol is legal & in my state you must be 21 to buy it, so why is it that when I walk into a detox, rehab, or jail I find almost 50% of the people are underage? Making addictive substances legal & saying only for adult consumption doesn't work. Now I'm not a prude & I have no religious conviction-I'm not looking down on anyone-I'm simply pointing out a glaring hole in this particular belief & again I don't believe that makes me anti-prosperity, but that's the thing about beliefs they are subject to change or should be.
Thank You for your thoughts as always.
Peace & Prosperity,
Derrick
Good to hear that I am not the only one who has struggled 🙂
Rather I see it this way.
We are all being indoctrinated every moment, receiving electromagnetic impulses this way and that.
Indoctrination, as I see it, is neither good nor bad.
It simply exists.
One may call it life imprinting.
To some of us who have had the "indoctrination" toward the "free choice" ideology, and that ideology is consistent with our lifestyle at present, that is how we view things.
To those of us who have been indoctrinated toward "victemhood" and continue that motivation consistent with a lifestyle, then that is how we view things.
How we view things conditions our (re)actions.
In the sexual arena, for example, sex/human slaves/trafficking shall be part of the indoctrinated experience of victemhood conditioning that has not been conditioned otherwise.
The discussions of the good/bad continue around porn, abortion.etc., when one places these issues in any "moral" dialectic good/bad emotional category.